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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Disagree. By definition of a "pass", you are wrong imo.
The definition of a "pass" under rule 4-31 is met if the player doesn't touch the ball again after first pushing it to the floor and a teammate is the next player to touch it.
It is a judgment call, but if you lay off the whistle to see the play develop, the play calls itself. Player who pushed the ball to the floor touches it first again----> dribble. Player pushes it to the floor and a teammate touches it first----> pass.
Would you automatically call a bounce pass to a teammate a dribble?
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We have had this conversation before. It is apparent that neither of us has changed his mind. In the play under discussion, it was the start of a fast break. The player caught the ball and pushed it to the floor to start a dribble, but was flustered when he turned to find a defender in his path. This disrupted his rhythm, and caused him to lift his pivot before he released the ball, resulting in a traveling violation. If he had stumbled and fallen somehow in the middle of the play and had not touched the ball again, in my judgment it was still obviously the start of a dribble. No way was it a pass.
End of story.