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Originally Posted by dbking
I saw the game and had recorded. I also watched the post game interview with Beilein. I also read the exact wording of college rule book. I am also a die hard Boilermaker.
I am not so sure on the good call. The contact must be severe or extreme during a live ball. Ball was certainly live. Contact was hard to a sensitive part of the body. What Manny did is done 100's of time a game. They are moving the ball from right to left. Kramer had a LGP. There was contact initiated by Harris. Offensive foul, player control and team control. I believe that the contact was not Flagrant.
If you listen to post game interview with Beilein, I think that he does a great job of explaining the move. I was impressed. I also listened to Kramer's post game interview and he made no mention of foul being flagrant.
I also watched the foul in OSU vs. Michigan game. That is a flagrant foul and deserved the ejection. I am not so sure on this one.
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I agree. Gottlieb and Tom Brennan were breaking this down on SportsCenter and they had a great point: That move is done many times during a game, and a player has to face up to get into an offense. They either have to swing the ball under, or go over like Harris did. It's certainly a PC foul, but I really don't think it was flagrant.
Snaq, you're right, but even the best screw up now and then, and I think this was one of those times.
BTW, the one in the Michigan/Ohio State game was bad. Flagrant plus suspension if you ask me.