[IRISHMAFIA]

I'm not going to let this go that easy.

The award is to B4, not the runners. I'm going to use ASA Case Play 8.6-1 as a reference though it doesn't address this exact play, I believe it may establish a precident.

ASA 6.A notes that a runner may advance without liability when forced to vacate a base when the batter is awarded first base on balls. However, the Effect also notes that in FP, the ball is still in play unless it becomes blocked.

ASA 5.5.B specifically states that no run shall score if the third out of the inning is the result of a runner being put out by a tag or live ball appeal play prior to the lead runner touching home plate.

Play 8.6-1


(In a FP game) Bottom of the 10th inning, two outs, tie score with bases loaded. B4 draws a walk. (a) B4 fails to go to 1B and instead enters his team area, although all other runners advance one base. (b) R3 does not advance to 2B and instead walks off the field, although all other runners and the batter do advance one base. Are these appeal plays or should the umpire call the infractions when he sees them?

Ruling: When a walk is issued, all runners, including the batter, must touch all bases awarded. Therefore, in (a) as soon as B4 enters his team's area, he should be called out by the umpire. Because the out occurred before the batter-runner touched 1B, it results in a force out. Since the third out is the result of a force out, no run can score on the play (b) . In neither case is it an appeal play. It must be called by the umpire as soon as offending player leaves the field of play (8.6A, 5-5B)

Actually, I believe this may substantiate an earlier thread (not sure if it was this board) where many of us thought that should be an appeal play.

However, back to this thread, If a force out on a walk can nullify a run, why not the alternative tag out during a live-ball period prior to the run scoring?

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