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Old Sat Oct 25, 2008, 09:49pm
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. is offline
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins View Post
I'm asking someone to climb up into MTD's attic and find the case play / interp regarding a player coming off the bench in the last second and stopping / blocking a last second 3-point try. As I recall, the FED issued an interp allowing us to call two Ts on team B (or the player), thus giving Team A a chance to win/ tie the game.

Thanks.

Bob:

I am curious. Why, pray tell, are you asking about a third world (I think that is what Carl Childress calls thm in baseball) play like this one?

I think I remember this play being discussed in this forum years ago, but I do not recall what the NFHS ruling was, BUT, I cannot imagine the NFHS would issue a ruling that would allow two TF's on this play. While we have a number of infractions: (1) B6 entering the court without being beckoned; (2) six (6) players on the court; or (3) flagrant unsportsmanlike conduct byB6.

Here is my observations and musings about this play. My first musing is that there is a NFHS Casebook Play that is similar to this play: A1 is dribbling toward Team A's basket for an uncontested layup when HC-B commits an unsportsmanlike act. The rules state that the unless continuous motion is involved the ball becomes dead the the clock if running shall be stopped when the TF is committed by HC-B. But, in this play, the covering official shall hold his whistle until A1 has releases the ball for his field goal attempt before sounding his whistle to stop the clock and charging HC-B with a TF for unsportsmanlike conduct. I guess, for the lack of a better description, one could call this a foul during "delayed continuous motion."

My first question about this play is: Let us assume that the game officials do not see B6 enter the court and B6 proceeds to block A1's three-point field goal attempt: (a) B6's block occured in the middle of the quarter or (b) B6's block was of a last second shoot? The officials do not discover that Team B is playing with six players until after B6's block of A1's field goal attempt. B6 entered the court unbeckoned by an official. But the only penalty that can be applied is a TF charged to Team B for having six players on the court.

At this point I am going to make my post because The Ohio State University Buckeyes are losing to The Pennsylvania State University 10-6 late in the fourth quarter and I really cannot concentrate on this post, but I hope that this will start a discussion on this play.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. Go Bucks.
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