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The nature of the play might be adding to the confusion. Offhand, passing a runner is the only situation I can think of in which somebody can be instantly out during a dead ball. With the ball dead on a home run, runners can miss bases or even abandon effort and enter DBT, but at least in ASA, that requires an appeal.
Take the bases-loaded walk with 2 out. In ASA fast pitch, the ball is still live, so if the batter enters DBT before reaching 1B, the umpire calls her out and no run can score. But in ASA slow pitch, the ball is dead after the pitch, so the batter entering DBT would be an appeal. On appeal, of course, the batter would be out and no run would score.
Can anyone think of any other "instant out" when the ball is dead?
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