[Jim D]

Originally Posted by svm1010

Ok, I see your point. I still maintain that a flag should stand for any "foul" regardless of the distance penalty.

That being said, upon checking the officials manual I found something interesting. On page 22 under "controlling the sideline and team box" is states.....

First violation bt team
"A. Results in sideline warning."
"B. Covering official sound whistle, give proper signal, then report the infraction to R." (note there is no reference to a flag, dropped or otherwise)

On the second violation:
"A.Covering official will drop penalty marker, sound whistle, report infraction tot he referee."

Based on that, the Flag should not even come out until you are going to tack on yardage.

That's last year's version. The new manual includes "drop penalty marker" on the first violation. You do not waive off this flag.