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Old Thu Jul 31, 2008, 11:26am
IRISHMAFIA IRISHMAFIA is offline
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Originally Posted by youngump
So I was had a co-ed slow pitch game last night and the pitcher was throwing really high about twice an inning.

So I was getting a fair workout throwing my left arm out.

About 4 innings in, between innings, the coach from one team comes up and tells me I should stop calling illegal pitches and just call them as balls when they land. He says that in 5 years in this league he's never seen an umpire call the illegal pitches the way I was doing it. He goes on about how he's a baseball umpire and I should listen to him because after 10 years people are still helping him with his mechanics. At that the conversation ended.

Now, I've certainly never heard this before but I have had a few different games where people have asked me what the penalty for an illegal pitch is.

So my questions are:
1. Does anybody here do this? If so, in what situations. (i.e., how low level does the ball have to be.)
2. Besides politely stating you were going to keep calling it the way the rule is written is there anything else you'd say to end this conversation.
3. There's a rule/comment/rs somewhere that says we can't change a rulebook rule... is this such a situation? If not can someone provide examples for me of what can be changed. I'm trying to think what is a non-rulebook rule that I could change by mutual consent.

I'm trying to make sure I'm not overly officious; but I'm not sure how far one should go.

Thanks everybody.
There are organizations that do not use that mechanic.

Pesonally, as a batter, I would rather know if the pitch is illegal so I have the option of hitting it instead trying to guess what is going through the umpire's mind. There are others that prefer not announcing the IP stating that the call distracts the batter.

In my experience, if the batter likes the pitch, s/he is going to swing whether you call "illegal" or not. I could understand if the umpire is screaming "ILLEGAL", which is why the umpire only needs to say it loud enough for the batter hears it. Yes, the catcher should hear it also, but my priority is the batter.

I've played in some tournaments of those organizations and, to be honest, there were times where is seemed more like the umpire was making an excuse for missing a strike call. I look at this the same manner of making a call with clarification.

The clarification comes first (pulled the foot) and then the call (SAFE).

Back to your scenario, tell you Coach to stick with something he knows about and softball umpire mechanics isn't it. That is unless you are working one of the organizations which does not call the IP until after the fact.
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