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Originally Posted by MrUmpire
I wasn't there, but I disagree with you assessment.
To me it says he didnt' slide.
Again, as demonstrated by your use of "then", you are assuming that this all took some time to happen. In my experience pick-off attempts happen quickly. with most action occurring near simulataneously; not runner gets back... pitcher throws...fielder gloves ball.
A lean caused a stable runner to fall....I don't think so. Throw caused the lean? Who cares?
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He didnt slide? So? If he has gotten back to the base, and is in control, slide or no, you cant ding him for that.
I realize this play didnt take long, but, if the post says "back" to the bag, and standing on the bag, and the fielder gets the throw, THEN makes contact, it wasnt a true banger.
Agreed, without seeing the play, we cant fully tell. But from the evidence given it appears it was the shortstops actions that caused the runner to come off. Not the runner not being in control and on the base.
And any Big Dawg official will tell you thats the way it should be judged, not because he didnt slide, and not because it was a banger.
..Coach: "hey you called my guy out? He was standing on the bag, and the shortstop took him off, why is that out?"
Mr Umpire:.."Uhh Coach, he didnt slide".
Does that fit the play?