Steve, we're quibbling about details here, but I'm game for another round...
Saying that stopping the hands before the lower body starts is "satisfying the rule for all intense and purposes" as JAB did (intensive purposes for those who wish to nitpick...but this isn't English class) is not true.
It does not satisfy the must come to a complete stop, it is just one part of a whole body that must stop...
Yes, the hands must stop as well, I'm not disputing that. All I'm saying is that EVERYTHING must stop, so don't look just for the hands to stop... look for EVERYTHING.
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