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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
Don't believe that for a second. If I judge the fielder had control of the ball after a tag, I'm calling the out. I'm not going looking for trouble, but I certainly am not going to back off a valid call because of perception.
The problem that there are umpires that believe a ball on the ground means the runner cannot be out is just as ridiculous as those who believe a runner cannot be called out if the tag is high on the player's body.
It all depends on how and when the ball got on the ground, just as the outcome of a high tag relies upon whether it occured before or after the runner contacts (and maintains contact with) the base.
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In ALL plays where the defender has caught the ball and applies a tag but the collision jars the ball loose, the argument could be made that at the nano second of the tag, the player has possession.. and as of that exact nano second the player is out, the rest of the play is irrelevant.
So by rule, thats an out.
That makes as much sense as calling a by the book strike zone or anything else that requires a little common sense and ..
you know um, judgment.