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Originally Posted by TussAgee11
David...
In your first post I over read the fact that the bases were loaded. That led me to believe that we had a tag play at the plate. From there, I assumed we never had "relaxed action"; I envisioned a play in which the runner, in an attempt to miss the tag, over slid the base and tried to scramble back in to the plate.
My apologies. Disregard it, I was thinking another sitch.
I'll agree with Rich on play 2 though. Pretty clear cut... a force is not removed on a missed base.
We debated a similar play 1 several weeks ago... in 2 separate threads - very in depth. Here is the link...
Appeal questions
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(FED) Missing a base DOES NOT remove the force
These two threads confused me so much I won't even go into it... it is late.
Perhaps tomorrow I will dig through and construct a post with more rule references.
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Thanks for the links to those discussions. Very instructive. But there wasn't much consensus there.
Now I have so many questions.
SITUATION: R3, 2 outs. Batter hits a slow roller to F6. R3 goes on contact and scores easily. The throw to F3 is late but the BR misses the bag as he goes flying by.
QUESTIONS:
#1: BR overruns the base and does not indicate by his actions that he has missed the base. Nonetheless, F3 keeps his foot on the base and tells the umpire "He missed the bag!"
Is the runner out on appeal?
Does the run count?
#2: Same as #1 accept the F3 tags the BR.
Is the runner out on appeal?
Does the run count?
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Also, I'm still not sure about my play where R3 (with the bases loaded) slides past home, missing it, and the catcher retrieves the loose ball and tags the
plate while the runner is scrambling back to the plate.
Is the runner out on appeal?
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NEW PLAY: Bases loaded, 2 outs. A hard smash is hit toward F5. He dives and knocks the hot grounder down. The only possible play is on R2. But R2 beats any attempt to force him out but, as he slides by the bag, he completely misses it. F5 recovers the loose ball and tags the base before the runner, attempting to scramble back. can get back to the base.
Is the runner out?
Is this an appeal or a force?
Does the run count?
David Emerling
Memphis, TN