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Originally Posted by umpjayfire

Sitch

I will try to properly paint this picture
0 outs bases empty...2 man mechanics...obr

F3 is playing about 25 feet behind the bag and BU is slightly further back in A
Lefthanded batter hits a hot grounder down the line, over the base where F3 makes a great diving stop.
BU sees its fair, makes proper voice mechanic (meaning none), and just points with his left arm FOUL....uuuuggghhh....
F3, who has heard nothing, knows its a fair ball and it might be a close play (pitcher didn't cover) and runs to first only to see that the B/R has stopped running. F3 steps on the bag and the BU takes a couple steps toward the base and gives an out mechanic....

COMMENCE CRAPHOUSE



I am UIC and ,without being asked, walk up the 1B line to talk to BU who has just said, "What the hell did I just do?" loud enough for the offensive dugout to hear...needless to say he was embarrassed....
If anyone cares I will tell you how we fixed it later but I am interested in how you guys would have fixed it.
Stay with out or call it a foul ball?

If the ball was clearly fair you have to stay with the call. All players have a responsibility to know what the situation is. Screaming foul (since this was close) would be expected. He may have signalled but he didn't verbally call it which would have been expected by both teams. Poor mechanics no question. If the ball was indeed fair the out is the correct call. BR may or may not have seen the foul signal. You don't know that for certain. No matter what you do you're in trouble. Declaring the ball "foul" almost amounts to a "do over". Eat the crow and make the correct call.