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Old Sat Mar 15, 2008, 08:03am
dash_riprock dash_riprock is offline
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Bruno - this is a good question.

The rule says the ball is dead, and the balk enforced, unless the batter reaches 1st and all other runners advance at least a base. (8.05 PENALTY)

This would dictate that in both situations, the BI is ignored (because the ball is dead), award the runner one base (no pitch to the batter).

It gets murky with the A.R. that says when a pitcher balks and throws wild, runners may advance beyond the awarded base at their own risk. However, in order for the runner(s) to keep advancing at their own risk, the ball must be live, and there is no exception to the ball becoming dead if the batter does not reach 1st.
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