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Old Thu Mar 06, 2008, 05:17pm
Dakota Dakota is offline
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Originally Posted by JefferMC
...Now don't get me wrong; this team got shafted....
From what I can gather from viewing the really poor video and reading the BB board and looking at the still frames from the video, I do not believe your conclusion can be supported as anything other than an opinion. Of course, being from upstate, your opinion may be somewhat biased!

Still frames that have been posted (reported to be every frame, that is every 1/30 of a second) show

--- ball in the players hands, scoreboard lights not lit
--- ball out of the players hands, scoreboard lights lit

So, all that tells us is that sometime in the intervening 1/30 of a second, the time expired and the shot was away. It does NOT say which happened first.

One ref on the court waved the shot off BEFORE the refs conferred.

Also, NFHS rules (so I've been told - I'm not a BB ref) go by the horn only and not by the scoreboard light, so in a sense, the still frames are irrelevant. As bad as that video is, I don't see how anyone could overrule the on-the-court ruling from the video.

There were 1.7 seconds on the clock at the time of the missed free-throw. That is 51 video frames if the scorekeeper started the clock at exactly the correct time in the game action. From the time the Spartanburg player touched the ball after the missed free throw until his hands were back making the shot (ball still in his hands) was 56 frames - meaning time should have expired 5 frames earlier.

Not trying to re-start the discussion from the BB board over here (where we are, at best, mostly fans, not officials of BB --- if that), but I don't think you can say Spartanburg "got shafted." They were on the losing end of a tough call. I would guess they had ample opportunities earlier in the game to actually win it.
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