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Old Tue Feb 05, 2008, 09:34am
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I have posted my answers in red... And this isn't fun, even though I havn't had it quite this bad...
See the bottom for rule refrences

Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_rumperee
A couple of weeks into the season there was a large brouhaha in a game my association covers. Players going at it, parents streaming onto the floor. Coaches/parents squaring off. As a 1st year, I can tell you nothing sounds more awful to occur, especially because I would be totally unprepared to 'resolve' things properly.

So I got the rulebook out, figured things out a little, and decided to create some scenarios. In these, you and your partner(s) are fantastically fastidious record keepers!

At the end of each scenario, list:
How many players ejected?
Is coach ejected?
Which team shoots...
...how many FT's?

In all scenarios there is no foul that causes the fight to erupt. The ignition incident is unobserved... suddenly players are going at it! Players leave the bench, some join fight, some are peacemakers.

Scenario 1:
Players Fighting: 1 White, 2 Blue
Bench personnel fighting: 1 White, 2 Blue
Bench personnel peacemakers: 5 White, 1 Blue

How many players ejected?
Is coach ejected?
Which team shoots...
...how many FT's?
Fighting players from white and blue DQ'ed
PLayers leaving bench are all charged with Fighting fouls and ejected Coaches of each teams are charged with 1 Bench tecnical foul.
This means we have White 2 FT's and ball since the rest of the penalties get cancelled (B Tech for B tech and 1 D for 1 D)

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Scenario 2:
Players Fighting: 1 White, 1 Blue
Bench personnel fighting: 1 White, 1 Blue
Bench personnel peacemakers: 3 White, 3 Blue

How many players ejected?
Is coach ejected?
Which team shoots...
...how many FT's?
Fighting players blue and white DQ'ed.
Other players all charged with Fighting fouls and coaches one B-tech each.
Play resumes at POI (no FT's)

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Scenario 3:
Players Fighting: 1 White, 1 Blue
Bench personnel fighting: 1 White, 3 Blue
Bench personnel peacemakers: 5 White, 1 Blue

How many players ejected?
Is coach ejected?
Which team shoots...
...how many FT's?
Same scenario, fighitng players on the court Disqualifying fouls.
Bench personell charged with Fighting fouls.
Coaches one B-tech each.
Game resumes at POI

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Scenario 4:
Players Fighting: 2 White, 2 Blue
Bench personnel fighting: 2 White, 1 Blue
Bench personnel peacemakers: 2 White, 1 Blue

How many players ejected?
Is coach ejected?
Which team shoots...
...how many FT's?
And same thing
Fighting players Disqualifying fouls
Bench personell Fighting fouls
Coaches one B-tech
Game resumes at POI

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Now for the rules, intresting parts in red
Art. 39 Fighting
39.1 Definition
Fighting is physical interaction between two or more opponents (players, substitutes, coaches, assistant coaches and team followers).
This article only applies to substitutes, coaches, assistant coaches and team followers who leave the confines of the team bench area during a fight or during any situation which may lead to a fight.
39.2 Rule
39.2.1 Substitutes or team followers who leave the team bench area during a fight, or during any situation which may lead to a fight, shall be disqualified.
39.2.2 Only the coach and/or assistant coach is permitted to leave the team bench area during a fight,
or during any situation which may lead to a fight, to assist the officials to maintain or to restore order. In this situation, he shall not be disqualified.
39.2.3 If a coach and/or assistant coach leaves the team bench area and does not assist or attempt to assist the officials to maintain or to restore order, he shall be disqualified.

39.3 Penalty
39.3.1 Irrespective of the number of coaches, assistant coaches, substitutes or team followers disqualified for leaving the team bench area, a single technical foul ('B') shall be charged against the coach.
39.3.2 If members of both teams are disqualified under this article and there are no other foul penalties remaining for administration, the game shall be resumed as follows.
If at approximately the same time as the game was stopped because of the fighting:
• A valid field goal is scored, the ball shall be awarded to the non-scoring team for a throw-in at any place at the endline.
• A team had control of the ball or was entitled to the ball, the ball shall be awarded to this team for a throw-in at the centre line extended, opposite the scorer’s table.
• Neither team has control of the ball nor was entitled to the ball, a jump ball situation occurs.
39.3.3 All disqualifying fouls shall be recorded as described in B.8.3 and shall not count as a team foul.
39.3.4 All foul penalties occurring before the fighting situation shall be dealt with in accordance with Art. 42 (Special situations).

Art. 42 Special situations
42.1 Definition
42.1.1 In the same stopped-clock period which follows an infraction, special situations may arise when additional foul(s) are committed.
42.2 Procedure
42.2.1 All fouls shall be charged and all penalties identified.
42.2.2 The order in which all fouls occurred shall be determined.
42.2.3 All equal penalties against the teams and all double foul penalties shall be cancelled in the order they were called. Once the penalties have been cancelled they are considered as never having occurred.
42.2.4 The right to possession of the ball as part of the last penalty still to be administered shall cancel any prior rights to possession of the ball.'


That should cover it
Overall, if you're a bench player and a fight breaks out, if you leave the bench you are out of the game. No matter what you acctually did
How ever, the coach is only charged with one T for players leaving the bench.
Fighting players (on the court) are disqualified for fighting. These fouls are adminstered as normal and count as team fouls, fighting fouls don't.
Fighting fouls are only(!) charged for unauthorised beanch personell leaving the beanch during a fight or a situation wich could lead to one.

Overall, this means you can throw out half the players around and still not shot more then 2 FT's, if even that.
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