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Originally Posted by socalumps

Not tryin to get into a pissin match but....

Is your data (information) current?

This coach who said this...said it when?? Since the advent of managed conferences? Which conferences does this coach assign. I am not aware

I guess I should stop right here, but that wouldn't be fun

of any NCAA coaches who assign thier own games...if they do that is not as per NCAA approval. I didn't know there are such a thing as Division I clinics.

This was a few years back, it was an Ivy League coach and took place immediately after the satellite clinic transmission ended. Like I said, a few years back. BTW, where did I say it was a "Div I clinic"?

I heard these types of threats several years ago myself...but none recently...and certianly none approved by the SUIP or NCAA.

WTF is a "SUIP"? Other than 'Pius' backwards. And the NCAA has nothing to do with assignments during the season. The conference as a whole determines which officials/umpire association with which they will deal. Many conferences restrict their members to this association, but a few still allow the school to select an association with which to deal.

An assigner is on speed dial of every coach's phone. It is not unusual for an assigner to get an earful from an unsatisfied coach. Enough coaches in a conference have a problem with their umpires, that association may not have that contract the next year and that would make for some very unhappy umpires.

As far as comparing to other intities...ASA rules are all approved by commisioners? Some input comes from player reps, committees and NUS, perhaps other non umpire types? Which could lead to some of the frustration many of us have with rules, their effects and their wording?

You like using a question mark?

Actually, the commissioners carry only about 40% of the votes. The umpires only have 15 total votes while the player reps can control the council if they ever banded together as a unit, but that is not going to happen. There isn't that much confusion with the rules or the wording.

Yes, NCAA rules are approved by a coaches rules committee with input from the NUIP staff and an umpire representative. This is different how?

It is a smaller, less diverse group and on certain subjects is probably heavily influenced by the NFCA. And that is okay if it is the way they want to run their business.

ASA and most other affiliation's local umpire assignments are under the ultimate jurisdiction of a commisioner and sometimes when they get really important, regional or national approval?

Okay, if you say so. I guess that depends on what type of commissioner you have. In my area, the UIC controls the umpire assignments in championship play and is responsible for selecting and submitting umpires for regional or national assignments. Other than that, each local association assigns their own leagues.

Having served in an administrative capacity on both levels I can support the goals of each as they aim to serve different constituencies. And serve them well in my opinion.

I guess I just get a little concerned when ASA, NCAA or any other well intentioned group are catagorically mis-represented.

You mean like the many people in SoCal think that SoCal ASA is ASA and that the Yellow Book is the bible?

Opinions are like...."I'll leave that to your imagination".....everyone has one!

To what you are referring, yes. To what I was referring when I posted that line, no.

But will the facts and accurate information support them?

I guess it's too early to start tuning that piano