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Originally Posted by Publius
To deny this run, you have to do one of two things:
1. Without an appeal, ignore the universally accepted (except, apparently, by a few posters here) concept that passing a base, absent an appeal, constitutes a legal touch.
2. With an appeal, rule the runner out for missing the base. To do that, you have to uphold a missed-base appeal on a runner who came back and touched the base prior to the appeal. There is nothing in the rules that states, or even suggests, that the touch was not legal.
Good luck with either of those.
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Your principle 1 is not correct: passing a base is
treated as a legal touch, it does not
constitute a legal touch.
And that's not the issue here anyway. The issue is: to take the hard case (runner passes plate, defense records third out, runner returns and touches plate), did the runner score when he passed the plate or when he returned to touch it?
You seem to think that he scores when he passes the plate. On your view, then, the only reason to return to touch the plate is to prevent the appeal.
I disagree: a runner scores when he
touches the plate before 3 are out (4.09a). If he
misses the plate, he'll be treated as touching it, but he's liable to being called out on appeal. If he returns to correct his mistake, the time of scoring is then when he touches, not when he passed the plate (since passing the plate was a mistake, I'm not giving the offense credit for it). Since the time of scoring is now after the third out, no run.