@ TrueRookie (and whether you were out of line): No offense taken. While I haven't posted on the boards, I have been reading them for a while, and expected this response from someone. However, "growing a pair" isn't really the issue what I was trying to address. Let's not make this a flame war.
@ everyone who said to give the ball to Red OOB: This was my initial thought as I went back to the baseline, but as several people mentioned, I thought that since he made the point to say "White ball" loudly (implying that we had just discussed the call and come to a consensus together), it would look foolish if I ran back and gave the ball to Red.
Either 1) He would stop play again and say "White ball," which would make us look worse, have to then hash it out again, in full view of everyone knowing that we just disagreed 2) The HC-White would now raise protest, saying "You both just talked and he said 'white ball!".
The second thought that ran through my head was that if Red inbounded the ball quickly before partner could stop play, it is a non-correctable error, and Red would retain possesion even if it was blown dead
@ TrueRookie for stating that I allowed partner to let me kick a rule/because of vet's status: I don't think it was because of "vet" status that I let him kick the rule. I gave him the information to change it, he didn't want to change it, loudly stated his decision before we agreed. Should I have let him kick the rule? That was part of my question to everyone. It's really easy to say "Give the ball to red....screw him" But in reality, are you going to have a big fight on the court about one possesion?
I don't think I'm not going to "stand up" to a veteran because of this, as I don't consider myself a "rookie". I didn't just roll over and say "woops, I guess he must be right!" I don't have a problem checking with my partner if I feel a rule has been kicked. Yes, it's wrong to kick a rule. That is why rules are in place. My question was more about how to handle a situation where you and your partner disagree.
@ Deecee: This is what I was trying to get it. I didn't want to stand at halfcourt and have an arguement about who was right/wrong. I wanted to discuss the call, but he stopped discussing it and made a decision, reconfirming his original call. What am I supposed to do, as his partner on the court?? Throw him out of the game? This is where I hoped to generate discussion. If I did argue/give the ball to red, the situation is only going to escalate.
@ Splute: I agreed with your statement on "time and place for everything" and that is why I decided to not argue on the middle of the court. Yes, I was almost hoping that HC-Red would say something, so that we could jog over and have a discussion, and HC-Red would say "You can still run the baseline" and partner goes "Oh, uh..yeah, that's right." I think that my partner decided that inherently he was right/I was wrong because of his age/vet status. But, what am I to do? "Hey coach, can you come over here and tell my partner that he's wrong?" It's my partner and I, and we have to make a decision together. We can't poll the audience!
@ BayStateRef: I like your "bet the gamecheck" idea! I almost wish I had done that in retrospect, as I'm sure that he would have accepted.
@ Archangel: Wow, and not that I would ever get into a shoving match about a rule, but that is what I didn't want the situation to disintegrate into...where we just argued back and forth about a call. We can't give the ball to both teams, and have to make a decision. Because he made the decision, and then (seemingly) made the decision for us again after conferencing, I didn't have anything to go on....other than trying to "sneak one in"
Thanks to everyone for all the comments/discussion
I didn't mean to state this as myself vs Vet official, but how to handle a situation where you and your partner(s) disagree on (any) rule. BayStateRef had a fun idea about betting the gamecheck, but I could see that turning it into a "you vs me" problem. I obviously knew the rule, tried to correct it, and he didn't want any part of it.
Walter
(To the official who called Tyler F. this morning and said "What the **** are you doing JH games for!)
I just moved to Muncie/Ball State, and since I'm new to the area and still making contacts.....a few JH games during the week. Plus, it pays the rent. I know I'm certainly not getting paid enough of a stipend! haha