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Originally Posted by ca_rumperee
I had a play tonight, where after a made basket by team A, player B1 took ball out of the basket, took a step toward endline, handed it back to B2 and then THEY take a step toward the line and hand it back to B3 who ultimately steps out-of-bounds and passes it in to B4. Each step along the way was a "no, let me take it out!"
My question is... how does the pass back to a teammate in the "no, let me take it" differ from an actual pass inbounds (or attempt to pass inbounds).
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Once one of the B players is OOB with the ball, he's thrower. He can now pass the ball to a teammate who is inbounds or completely OOB as the throw-in has begun. If he hands the ball to a teammate inbounds, passes the ball to a teammate who's straddling the line or a teammate catches the ball inbounds and steps OOB, it's a violation.
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For example, player B1 (in my above scenario) takes it out of the basket, steps towards the out-of-bounds (which they actually did), and turns and passes the ball to B2 thinking they had stepped over the endline.
What quality of the plays makes one legal and the other a violation?
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It's either a legal throw-in or it isn't. None of these complications you throw into it make any difference. It makes no matter what the player(s) think. A player who travels but thinks he didn't, has still traveled.
Officiate the play, recognize what you see, make the call BASED ON THE RUELS, NOT WHAT YOU THINK THE RULE SHOULD BE as another does.