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Old Sun Jan 13, 2008, 01:12am
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Gimlet:

I am a bald old geezer who has been officiating boys'/girls' H.S. for 37 years, women's college for 34 years, and men's college for 15 years; that means I was officiating H.S. and college basketball before you were even a gleam in your father's eye and I am a generation of officials that believe that has not succumb to the philosophy of chest thumping, in your face, get out of my house type of sportsmanship that has become the norm in sports today. The huddle conduct that I mentioned was addressed in a bulletin a number of years ago. It seems that the presidents of NCAA Div. I schools really "care" about how their school are perceived by the public. Div. I college coaches are extremely well compensated professionals and they should conduct themselves accordingly, and telling a player to "beat the hell" out of an opposing player is not appropriate conduct of an extremely well compensated professional to conduct himself.


Personally, I cannot believe a Div. I coach would ever make such a comment within earshot of an official. But if he did he should be held to the same high standard that a 7th grade coach: ejection. I do not believe this a “lets agree to disagree” discussion. As long as we take the position that boys will be boys, then game conduct will only get worse. If you are afraid that you will lose college games if you toss a college coach, then get out of the game. Any supervisor that would not support you is not worth working for because he will sell you done the river any chance he gets because he has no scruples.

MTD, Sr.

Certainly I agree with you that I doubt we would ever hear such a statement now.

I work DI (W's) and have ran this play by half dozen of my counterparts & a couple of my counterparts that work DI (M's)They all agreed that you would have to do something, but a Flagrant "T" would never be an option unless, "We have a live ball, coach tells his player to hit another player." If he/she does, player & coach is gone, Flagrant "T."

I worked a DI game this afternoon where Coach calls a T/O and proceeds to ask his team what the F*** are you doing? That's nothing and will never be nothing. If there was a bulletin that covered this, I haven't seen it or heard about it. One thing is for sure that it has been forgotten.

I can see why it would seem that the right thing to do is to toss the coach. I'm just saying that I (IMHO) don't think that action would be supported by the rules. If I administer a rule wrong then I'm losing games...PERIOD!! As I should! I would absolutely have no problem sending a coach if the coach happened to do something that the rules say he/she should be ejected.

You have been around a lot longer then I have and I believe you would handle this just the way you said. Maybe thats "old school" maybe its not. I'm going to close by saying if you can do it and get by with it, GREAT!!! Since I'm not from the "old school," I'm @ most going with a Direct "T" on the coach..maybe...depending on the context of his/her statement.

This has nothing to do with the supervisor backing me or not. If I kick a rule , I kicked the rule not the supervisor. The supervisor can't protect me if I kicked a rule or in this case toss a coach for a comment that he/she made to HIS/HER player . If you kick a rule @ the DI level you WILL LOSE GAMES!!!
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