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Dave, you are making a default call here when you are saying if you don't see it, it didn't happen.(Of course, I have a feeling that you wouldn't turn your back on a potential timing play like the poster did!!) That works for things like obstruction, interference, foot out of the box, missed bases(hehe, laughing over a different thread),etc, but I would think some common sense would apply here. Like Pete said, with 60 ft bases, there is a good chance that r2 did score. You could rephrase your fall back position on this type of play to "I didn't see the runner NOT cross the plate before the tag." I think on this sitch, you have to give the benifit of the doubt to the offense. Both get something on the play. The defense gets an out, and the offense gets a run. And of course, next time the poster will set up different and not have a problem. Of course, we didn't see all the details, but if r2 was off and running with contact, he probably scored, if he holds up waiting for a possible catch, he probably didn't. We definitely need some judgment on this call.
[Edited by phillycheese on Jun 3rd, 2002 at 04:52 PM]
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