Thread: Roger Clemens
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Old Thu Jan 10, 2008, 04:15pm
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Originally Posted by Steve M
"Just look at his record in the beginning of 1998 when he was with the Blue-Jays then "presto" he goes on to win 20 games and capture the CY young award."
Now I'm left with a question or two. Did Clemens' speed/power pitching increase at this time? Did his size increase. I don't see where he increased speed and I don't see that he increased size - as is expected and noticed in other users. I also don't see how increased strength is going to do anything but make him less accurate, so - did his walks and HBP increase?
I will take it a step further. The size of a person is also a bad judge of who took a drug or not. Change your diet, lift more weights, you will get bigger in many ways over a period of time. Heck people that are getting paid millions work out more than most of us.

Also pitching is about control more than speed. There are players that can hit 100 but cannot get the ball over the plate. Remember Matt "Wild Thang" Williams when he played for Philly and the Cubs? He could throw really hard but he could not get the ball over the plate. And he had trouble at critical times. I think pitching can benefit from steroids the least. Steroids does not help you control the ball or tell you when to go inside on a batter like Roger has done well most of his career. And Clemens the last several years would hardly go longer than 5 or 6 innings. I am not seeing this drastic jump in his ability in the latter years as compared to even Bonds. Roger basically did less year in and year out. The last two years Roger did not even play a full season because he waited until almost a 3rd of the season was over then he decided to come back and play.

The bottom line is we have a bunch of people that never did anything athletic (the media) telling the public that steroids are so bad and help performance based on size of players (alone) and we think it helped players enhance their performance.

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