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Old Thu Jan 10, 2008, 05:24am
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Originally Posted by PIAA REF
I am having trouble with what this rule means. Rule 10 Section 3 Article 6 (pg 62 of Rule book
letter a: Preventing the ball from being made live promptly or from being put in play.
At first I thought maybe it had to do with slapping the ball away after a made bucket but I don't think it does now. The reason for this problem is we had an official that read this rule and after a team had a delay warning on them earlier in the game a player hit the ball away as it came thorugh the net on a made bucket. The official correctly called the delay which in this case was a T (second delay after a warning) but IMO incorrectly called it on the player instead of it being a team Technical. This happened to be the players second technical of the game and was ejected. If anyone can please elaborate on this ruling.

Thanks.
Strictly speaking only one of the examples provided below could fall under this particular rule. The others each have another specific rule to govern the stated action.

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Think of the player who, instead of handing the ball to the official, tosses it into the stands.

This is one example.
This properly falls under 10-3-6b or 10-3-7a.

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
In addition to not giving the official the ball when a violaiton/foul has been called, it can involve slapping the ball away after the basket if it not just delays it but makes it unavailable. It's largely a matter of degree. If the player (after a made basket) bats the ball into the stands....T. If they merely grab it and hang onto it for a second or bump it away from the other team a few feeet....delay warning (or team T if the 2nd delay).
1. See the above response.
2. As you state the lesser degree offense is governed by 4-47-3 and 10-1-5d.
The ridiculous action depicted in the OJ Mayo video would have to come under the purview of 10-3-6a since he is not directing his action towards an official or an opponent. I guess it could be considered taunting (10-3-7c), but the rule under discussion is a more direct fit.

Since the throw-in, FT, and jump ball are the only methods of making a dead ball live per rules fundamental #4 we know that any infringement of 10-3-6a must occur just prior to one these three situations. Most of the situations which could arise in under these circumstances already have a specific rule which addresses them. I can come up with only a handful of others:
a. slapping the ball from an official's hands just prior to the adminstration of a throw-in or FT;
b. refusing to properly occupy the designated half of the center circle for a jump ball (could also come under 10-1-5b depending upon the circumstances);
c. refusing to jump and try to touch the tossed ball on a jump ball after being ordered to do so by an official due to the failure of both players to do so on a proir toss (see 6-3-6 and the Note following 6-3-8);
d. after obtaining possession of the ball following a FT attempt after which the ball is to remain dead (ie the FT will be followed by another FT or a throw-in (think FTs for an intentional personal foul or a T)), failing to give the ball to an official (note that there is no whistle that makes the ball dead in such a case so really 10-3-6b doesn't apply).
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