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Originally Posted by just another ref
As long as we have no specific language in the books saying when a TO is considered to be granted, there is no way absolutely settle this issue.
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Agreed!
That said, if I can grant a TO regardless of player control because I recognized the request while there was PC, how can I not also make a clock change for the same purpose?
To me, it's easiest to do it this way, I'd simply argue that it needs to be one way or the other. Of course, if you can look at the clock after recognizing a TO request, you should also be able to blow the whistle at that point...