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Originally Posted by Corndog89
Go back to the start of the confrontation...you started it when you dorked up with the IW. Not a major mistake and one easily corrected, but it was your mistake to start with (and we've all done similar "DOH's"). When the V coach started yelling that you had proceeded incorrectly (incorrectly, BTW) you had a choice to make and it sounds like you reacted defensively.
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It doesn't sound like that to me. It sounds like he knew he was right, and he acted in accordance with the situation that the so-called V coach escalated.
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Originally Posted by Corndog89
Technically you were correct, but, IMO, you escalated the situation by immediately telling the V coach "You're wrong" and then directing the frosh coach to shut up his "assistant" and keep him in line.
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Ichi may have used the phrase "I told him he was wrong" in his post, but there's no indication that he said that in the sitch. And he didn't even say he directed the frosh coach to shut his assistant up and keep him in line. He directed the HEAD coach, who is supposed to be in charge after all, to control his bench. That's the neutral, official instruction straight from the book. How is that inflamatory?[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by Corndog89
Again IMO, you put the frosh coach on a huge spot because it's rare the HS frosh coach who is an "equal" to the V head coach...the frosh coach invariably works for the V coach in some capacity and is unlikely to direct or stand up to the V coach. Now the V coach has been publically humiliated over a minor mistake in a freshman game and the proverbial molehill has grown into a mountain.
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The V coach humiliated himself making a mountain out of a molehill. The ref is just trying to get the game back on track.
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Originally Posted by Corndog89
What would I have done? Being a freshman game, and even though the V coach was technically an assistant, I would have brought him and the frosh coach together and explained my mistake and that we're going POI per the rules (I don't have my rules book with me so I can't cite the exact rule). By treating the V coach (who, face it, would be my real target for pacification in light of my error) as the de facto guy-in-charge, it would probably prevent any further blow-ups.
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This sounds like a great way to cut the family jewels off the frosh coach. If he can't stand up to the V coach already, you're sure not helping here. It's like a coach asking your partner to through you under the bus. Not a good plan, imo.
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Originally Posted by Corndog89
Call it game management, call it humility, call it real-politick, but I want the game to continue without unecessarily bringing on more and bigger problems. This should never have escalated into a pi$$ing contest between me and the V coach.
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It wasn't a pissing contenst between ichi and the coach. IT was the coach being a complete and total jerk. ichi just dealt with the sitch. got the game going, had no more game problems. I call that game management. you can call it whatever you want.
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Originally Posted by Corndog89
For me the toughest part of officiating is dealing with coaches, and when I let my emotions overcome detached calm and logic, that's when I start to have real problems.
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Doesn't sound like his emotions overcame his calm or his logic. I don't get how you're interpreting this as ichi's problem. The V coach got idiotic, ichi got him under control. sounds good to me.