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Originally posted by JRutledge
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by JRutledge
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Yeah, but none of that matters since she had good court presence, right? 
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I think she got a 95% on her test. She can officiate anywhere with those test scores. 
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Officials who get 95 on their exam don't miss those types of calls because they know the rules.
Only officials who don't know the rules and are only worried about how they look miss thos types of calls.
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Again, just because you have book knowledge does not mean that you will know what to call when you see it on the court. Reading a situation is much, much different than seeing the play or plays on the court.
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But if you don't have rules knowledge, you definitely won't know what to call.
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Just because you can quote a rule does not mean you will apply it the proper way when you have coaches, players, fans and other officials in the stands picking at everything you do. There is a thing called pressure and knowing how to stay cool under those circumstances.
But then again Tony you are right. Officials that know the rules do not make those mistakes. But if officiating was only about rules, then officiating would be a lot better. I had a baseball game this evening and the argument that I had at home plate had nothing to do with knowing the rules. It did have to do with my judgement that was being questioned by the coach. It was a much bigger factor how I handled the situation. I could have gotten mad and struck back at the coach and called him names but then again I would never officiate that conference again, and I definitely probably could have kissed my career in all my sports goodby too.
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I'm not discussing judgment, I'm discussing rules knowledge. Your baseball play has nothing to do with this. All of the plays that Mark brought up are rules knowledge. They have nothing to do with judgment.
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Tony I bet the only one that really recognized this was Mark. I bet not a single coach said a word and if they did was it any different than when you actually get the rules right. I have see coaches all the time complain, and they do not even know the actual rule. They still thought I was horrible and I nailed the rule. But then again I can say this until I am blue in the face  and you will still disagree. I guess life will move on.
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I will disagree with what?
Coaches don't know the rules. As Marty stated, so what?Does that mean that we shouldn't call the play properly or that we shouldn't know the rules? Mark's partner looked good on the court, yet she missed the plays. I would rather get the call right than look good making a bad call.
As Chuck said "Knowing the rules is no guarantee that an official will make the correct call on the floor. But not knowing the rules makes it almost impossible for an official to make the correct call on the floor." Mark's partner didn't know the rules.
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
It depends on HOW the person got the 95. In IL, the part 1 test is take-home, open book. Too many officials just show up at the association meeting where the test is discussed, write down the correct answers and turn in the test. They score high, but they don't learn anything.
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Bob, in NC, we take our annual exam closed book, so that's what I was baseing my statement.
I would think most would agree that they would rather be on the floor with someone who is a little unpolished but knew the rules as opposed to someone who looked real good, but kept blowing any rule applications. Or is that just me?