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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are you saying that if the players are standing next to another player in between FTs is unsportsmanlike?

No. I'm talking about those times when the players are just milling about, catching their breath, conferring with each other, headed to their next position. Ref is reporting a foul, maybe talking to partner, calling in subs. That's why I started calling it a stoppage of play.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And what about right after a basket? These two examples are clearly dead ball situations.

I already said I wasn't specifically talking about the dead ball after a made basket.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If that is unsportsmanlike in your opinion, you are just making it up because a player gets frustrated. You will not find a single interpretation that supports that.

No, and I said specifically I wouldn't automatically call it unsportsmanlike, just that I'd be watching pretty closely.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

unless the player is saying something or making contact, I do not see anything wrong with this. Just because you do not like it does not mean you can start calling something unsportsmanlike because you do not see it often. This is not a very solid way of thinking if you ask me.

I'm not calling it unsportsmanlike just because I don't like it. It seems as though it might be close to taunting to be closely guarding during a stoppage of play. THere's no reason for it. It is confrontive and aggressive to be this close and it's not appropriate when there's no basketball action going on. Nevada said it's the player's job to guard, but it's not anyone's job when the game isn't going forward. guarding when there's nothing to guard isn't part of the equation. If it's not done very, very carefully, I think it could be taunting and should not be allowed. Not automatically, but possibly unsportsmanlike.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Officials should not be looking for stuff to call because we do not like it.

I agree and I'm not doing that.