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Originally Posted by btaylor64
I don't see how that is a clear out if it happens at the top of the key. Does everybody go down to the baseline?
What mechanic is that? Not going across?
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I do not think it is a "mechanic." That is a philosophy that is taught. Usually the term I hear the most is "rotate with a purpose." In other words you do not just rotate just to follow the ball; you rotate because that is where you need to be.
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Originally Posted by btaylor64
You are also incorrect in assuming the NBA has alot of one on one. It has a good amount of one on one, especially very late in ball games where players just have one superstar, but as much tape and as many games as I watch, the plurality of plays are of the Two man game sort.
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Right or wrong, the NBA has many officials on their staff that has not been officiating basketball longer than many guys that you see on TV working D1 ball. There are people that have not been officiating basketball much more than 10 years total and they are in the NBA because they took a different route to get that kind of opportunity. Comparing the NBA to this discussion when we are not talking about an NBA game is kind of silly.
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Originally Posted by btaylor64
I believe totally that you can see all the players in a two man game, but do you, being your own harshest critic, believe you can REFEREE them at the college level and higher?
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Not only do I believe I can officiate that play, I have done so many times already. If you get a team that runs their offense with cuts and screens near the top of the key, where do you think most players are located? Not all offenses are designed only where players run around in the paint.
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Originally Posted by btaylor64
Also the L, unless preoccupied by an aggressive match up in the post, which we don't have in this situation, should be looking up on the wing during the two man game to have two sets of eyes covering it. If it is more toward the top of the key then it should be between the Trail and the Slot official.
How much of an action area will you actually have that far away from the ball? All or the majority of the action happens around or near the ball.
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Neither of us knows what kind of aggressive action that was taking place in this game. Often the most aggressive actions by players are away from the ball. This is why it is taught to watch off ball. At least the games I see on a regular basis. I just came from a scrimmage tonight with a team in the Chicago Catholic League. I was one of the instructors for this scrimmage to help younger officials in working the game. There was a lot of contact and physical play off ball that the officials were missing because they were busy watching the ball and not their area. And this was a scrimmage with players of the same team. Just imagine what might have happen if these were rivals in this conference. And it is very well known that the conference I just mentioned is a very physical and aggressive league. This is not just about this league that happens in a lot of basketball I see in many different areas I tend to work games.
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Originally Posted by btaylor64
Hey where I live many despise the mechanics too but I want to get the play right and in my opinion and the opinions of some of my bosses outside the area I live they believe this is the case as well.
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If you really paid attention to what I said, I did not say to never rotate. I said that if you have most of the players on one side of the court, you rotate when it is necessary, not just because the ball is on that side of the court. It is very possible that rotating might be the only thing to do in this situation, but if the ball has not settled, you can wait.
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Originally Posted by btaylor64
I'll leave it at that, but to also say that I respect your opinions and always have, just in this case I am very adamant about what should take place here.
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Let me also say this to you. You are disagreeing with my opinion on the issue of rotations that is completely alright with me. I am just saying that in my experience what you are saying is not the way it is taught and not the way that many outside of Women's basketball look at the mechanics. Every year the CCA Women's Committee goes in one direction and the CCA Men's Committee goes in another. There is a reason there are totally different books made and why the NF does not completely adopt college philosophies. Heck there are people that cannot stand the "closely guarded" mechanic.
Peace