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Old Sat Oct 20, 2007, 09:30am
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Originally Posted by jkumpire
If it's a JV Game....
Why not just eat the call, let the JV coach make changes and go on?

Yes, I know the coach should know better, but if they are still in the developmental stage, I'd think real hard about letting her make the changes to what lineup she wants to make it her intended lineup..
There are a couple of reasons:
(1) Incorrect procedure - nowhere in the rules do you have any basis for doing what you are suggesting.
(2) The lineup that the coach submitted is a legal lineup although not in the order that was intended. There is no rules allowance to change the lineup once it is submitted unless there is a non-existent number on the lineup sheet.

As BITS posted, failing to enforce the proper rules opens a can of worms for you and for all officials who follow you in subsequent matches. As a mentor of mine once said, "There are winning situations and there are learning situations." This is a learning situation for the coach who submitted the messed up lineup.

The coach turned in the lineup in wrong sequence and it is after the deadline for submission. Too bad, so sad - they have to live with it for the game. As an official, don't add to the problem by going for a fix where you let the coach change what was turned in.

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Originally Posted by refnrev
jku,
I'd agree with you in a Jr. high match, but they the time its JV in HS, they should be past things like this. RR
Sorry, rev, but IMO this is a totally wrong response. We want those who are learning the game to learn the correct procedures. There is no justification for letting the change happen just because it is at a Junior High level. You are on a slippery slope anytime you decide that you know more than those who wrote the rules and, therefore, make changes based on your feelings rather than on what is in the rules book. Unless you have a written directive from the state association, league or commissioner allowing variance from the rules as they are written in the book, enforce the rules as they are written and currently interpreted. Doing so will be equitable and fair for everyone and they will learn the proper procedures and how to deal with this type of situation.
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