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					Originally Posted by rainmaker
					
				 
				It doesn't need justification, just explanation.  it's not that tough -- 10 strokes =9 seconds.  Still, coaches can be difficult when it serves their purposes.  I"ll consider what you're saying. 
 
I guess what's working is giving a physical signal that control has begun and I'm counting.  Any suggestions for how to convey that differently from a stroke of the counting arm. 
			
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 Yeah - but they may or may not buy that explanation! 
I would have the first arm count be at 1, as normal. I've never had a coach start yelling 
immediately about a count -- they only start yelling after 2-3 seconds if you are not counting. That's been my experience anyway...