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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Jmo, but I think that the only firm rule on how to handle counts is that there is no firm rule. There's too many different situations and circumstances that you might encounter that may require the use of a little judgment and restraint at times.
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Well, that's fine, but to start the count late "to avoid having to call that kind of stuff" seems to show a total disregard for the rule.