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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
He's not saying to judge violations by A/D. He's saying that just like when judging a foul you sometimes have to wait to see if the contact you observed is actually a foul, in this case you sometimes need to wait to see if the batting or pushing of the ball to the floor turns out to actually be a dribble. He's using a comparison to make a point.
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And I'm saying that a violation is much more cut and dried than a foul. The overriding problem is the use of the terms always and never. It is undeniable that
sometimes another touch is needed by A1 to make a dribble. But it is my contention that
the vast majority of the time, when a player is starting a dribble, his intention to do so is obvious. When this happens, by definition, a dribble, and thus, a violation, occurs when the ball hits the floor.