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Originally Posted by just another ref
A1 has used his dribble. He stands holding the ball. He forgets and pushes the ball to the floor. Specifically when does an illegal dribble violation occur?
a. when it leaves his hand
b. when it hits the floor
c. when it hits his hand for a second time
d. some other time
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I think that there are in fact 2 different questions here, and that we can distinguish them. Let's assume that we are indeed talking about an illegal dribble, and that the official judges it to be so, and ask:
1. When does an illegal dribble violation occur?
2. When is an official in a position to judge that an illegal dribble violation occurred?
In that context would the answer to 2 be (c), and the answer to 1 be (a)?
Rationale: The violation occurs when the illegal dribble begins, but we aren't usually in a position to judge that until we know that it's a dribble and not a fumble, pass, etc.