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Originally Posted by just another ref
But there are also case when it is quite obvious that when A1 releases the ball it is indeed a dribble, nothing else, and if he has no dribble, when this ball hits the floor it is a violation. I'm done.
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Originally Posted by rainmaker
This is simply not true. Even if it's obvious that the player intends to dribble ( for example, bounce is right next to his foot and it bounces straight back up) if he realizes that he goofed and then never touches the ball after the initial push, it can't be called a dribble, imo. I know the wording of the rule book makes this seem to be not right, but I think it's another case of bad wording. Clearly, a dribble is a way to move legally with the ball, and if someone doesn't continue to move "with" the ball, but relinquishes control, how can it be a dribble?
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Why not?
4-15-4: A dribble is ball movement caused by a player.......who bats or pushes the ball to the floor
once or several times.
A single push to the floor, by definition, constitutes a dribble. It is unnecessary for anything else to happen. Judgment. In the example above you said it was obvious the player intended to dribble. That does it for me. Suppose A1 and A2 have a two on none fast break. A1 picks up his dribble in the lane and throws a high arching pass toward the corner, anticipating A2 will spot up for 3. Meanwhile A2 has stopped and headed back to play defense, anticipating A1 shooting a layup. A1 hustles after the ball and manages to grab it before it goes out of bounds. Is this a violation? How do you know it wasn't a really bad shot?