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Originally Posted by cshs81
It would seem the difference in the OP and the example you cite is that the ball is still in fair territory (over the plate) in the OP and in the batter's box in your example.
What am I missing?
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It wouldn't be different, the ball is in fair territory in both the OP and the example. You are correct, however, the ball's status of fair or foul must be rendered by the immediate contact of the batter standing in the batter's box. In the 2006 BRD, Mr. Carl Childress writes that this is a "Point not covered" in OBR. Therefore, I won't look to find the OBR equivalent to FED Rules I quote below. I do know that the "out" would be treated like a runner being hit by a live batted ball over fair territory. In this case, since it is the BR, he would not be awarded 1B.
Here is the FED interp for both an Out or
a Foul Ball.
FED 8.4.1 The BR is out when:
d. after hitting or bunting a ball, he intentionally contacts the ball with the bat a second time in fair or foul territory. The ball is dead and no runner(s) advance.
Note: In the case of a foul ball, it must have a chance to become fair in the umpire's judgment.
Exception: If the bat and ball accidently come in contact with each other a second time while the batter is holding the bat in the batter's box, it is a foul ball.
BRD 101 ALSO: If the batted ball hits the batter while he has no foot entirely outside of the batter's box, the ball is foul unless the umpire judges the batter interefered deiberately. (8.4.1b)
{although technically, Carl should mean (8.4.1d Note)}
In 2006 BRD 101 and BRD 102, the only difference is 'foul if "accidently" in one sitch' and 'out if "deliberately" in another.' Please, let's not turn this into "Are the hands are part of the bat?" discussion. The batter's box provides protection immediately. It would be different, if the bat in the batter's hand accidently contacts the ball while the batter is running toward 1B. Then rule 8.4.1d would apply.