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I am not an umpire
RPatrino,
I am not an umpire, I am a football/basketball official. So this was my original thought. If the 5-4-3 is completed, I know the run doesn't count because you got the batter out. The discussion centered on whether the guy being forced at 2nd is the same as if the batter were forced at 1st. So if I read you correctly, you are saying that the run in my situation would not count. How about if the third baseman tagged the runner coming from second and for some reason they didn't get the the runner forced at second but tagged him instead, would the run count then?
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