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Old Mon Jun 11, 2007, 11:46am
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
1. Different plate umpire, different day, different situation entirely. What does what the umpire the day before did have to do with anything? Tim Tscheda must not have felt that Hudson intentionally hit Soriano the day before. So what?.
Same crew. They should have consistency on how they interpret these situations. If Tim didn't know Hudson's throw was intentional he should be busted back to LL. He knew it, he chose to let it go with a warning. That's why I say the crew needs to be on the same page.

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
2. Maybe the crew (which is headed by Tim Tscheda, not Jim Wolf) decided to let it blow over, and not create negative tension by issuing pre-game warnings. You know, like the Amazing Morgan said, letting the teams handle it..
Then let them handle it.
Tim and Jim must not be talkin.

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If you look closely at the replay of Lilly, you can see him aim the ball purposefully at Renteria. He tracks the pitch with his eyes, and if you freeze the frame as Renteria is getting hit, Lilly looks well pleased with his efforts. Not only was it intentional, it was aimed toward his head, which is also taken into account when determining whether or not to run someone..
And what slo mo and freeze frame replay was Jim reviewing when he made the ejection?
Tim must have missed the head high fastball Hudson aimed at Soriano, or maybe he didn't have access to the same freeze frame replay.

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Renteria had told Wolf that he expected to get hit. It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure that it was intentional. Some times, you just have to umpire..
1. The umpiring should have started at pregame
2. Was the rocket scientist on vacation the day before?
3. Are you saying Renteria is smarter than Wolf? Are you suggesting we all should take input from players prior to making our judgement calls?
If Soriano had warned Tim the day before should Tim have ruled differently?
How could Renteria know it was him they would go after, why not Jones?

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3. I wonder what you say during your games. WTF business of anyone's what Wolf says miked up or otherwise? I didn't see it as wrong or controversial. .
That's because you're 'BLUE' tinted glasses filter out all umpire screwups.

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Lilly clearly hit Renteria on purpose, and Wolf kept Renteria from clobbering Lilly. That was his first order of business, to get Renteria away from Lilly. He then came back and ran Lilly. .
His first order of business was clearly to prevent the bean ball in the first place. By saying(while mic'ed) 'I knew it was coming' 'I was expecting it' was a stupid and moronic thing to say. If he knew it it was coming he should have issued a pregame warning.

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That was much better than running Lilly, and then letting Renteria kick the crap out of Lilly..
You're right, it was much better to let Renteria kick the crap out of Fontenot.


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Lilly claimed he wasn't throwing at Renteria. Sure, we believe you...not..
Did you believe Hudson?

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4. I agree. Renteria should have been thrown out for this act of violence. Jim Joyce just looked the other way.

I didn't have a dog in this fight, so my input is unbiased, not the boo-hooings of disgruntled Cubbie fans. Y'all haven't stopped crying since 1984.
You have a dog in the fight, it's the umpires.
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