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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 07:37pm
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Originally Posted by Old School
JRut, I understand your position here but it is the opposite extreme of what we are talking about. This tread is not about kids needing more discipline in there life or kids needing to toughen up.

The case I bought up with the child crying on the court. We’re talking kids still in grade school. The coach who was black wanted the white player who was taller than all the other kids in his age group to toughen up and play like a man. The kid was giving it his all, so much so, he was crying right there on the court. Damn near the whole game. My question to all of you is, when did you all lose site of kids just being kids? You have become the Roman society. When did bb become so damn important that kids now have to be adults before puberty sets in. Do you know that you will spend the majority of your life as an adult? How about we let kids be kids during those precious years where they don’t have a care in the world, instead of enforcing our selfish motives to win a bb game so they must grow up right now and get tough. I bet there was a lot of other places that kid would have rather been then running up and down that court crying. In fact, that type of abuse (and yes, I believe it is abusive to treat a kid this way) may turn this kid off to bb forever. That is the part that I speak about when I say it’s a sad state of affairs in this industry.
Crying does not mean anything. I have seen kids cry over committing a turnover. Also we give kids a trophy for just participating. When I was a kid you had to actually win something to get an award. I learned that you have to work hard and be exceptional. Sorry, I do not find it abusive for an adult to take them out of a game and when the kid pouts, and then the adult confronts them (as it appears it happen in your story). Also remember you asked for opinions and when we give it to you, you want to challenge it. Why did you come here in the first place if you did not want to accept opinions?

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Originally Posted by Old School
Last, did you know that bully’s, kids that abuse other kids, are kids that are abused themselves. Did you know that? Where does this abuse start or come from? Could it be from being forced to do something they don’t want to do. I’m all for disciplining kids in a proper and respectful manner and there will be tough ramifications if you do something wrong, however....!
I had bullies too when I was a kid. I punched one in the mouth and they left me alone. I did not run to my parents or other adults to handle my business. Not to say that works today as well, but at some point kids have to learn to deal with adversity. I was the only Black kid in an entire school and I had some issues to deal with and I survived and became very strong for it. Kids today have someone call them a name the world is coming to an end.

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Originally Posted by Old School
However valid your argument is JRut, it missed the boat here. You shot an airball, but it looked good.
First of all I did not come here asking for your opinion. You are the one having trouble figuring out what to do. I know what I would do and it would not be what you suggested. I feel adults have the right to displine kids and sometimes yell at them. Remember you said the kid had to be restrained. If the kid is reacting like that, then they do not need to play sports.

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