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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 10:06pm
JEL JEL is offline
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Originally Posted by illinoisbluezeb
NFHS game. R3 & R1. 2 out. R1 steals on the pitch, the catcher fires a throw to 3rd (a set play i think), F5 playing 1/2 way up the line fakes catching the ball F6 has moved to cover 3rd and catches the ball about belt high, a few feet towards home, and tags the runner just as she was starting her dive back to 3rd.

My partner, the BU, calls the runner safe . I believe he may have been shielded by F6 and missed seeing the tag. It was in front of the defense's 3rd base dugout to boot. Defensive coach yells " Can I appeal this." BU says " No it's a judgement call." He's right and maybe if she had said could you ask for help or ask you partner what he saw maybe it would have been different.

I know I can't say anything unles my partner asks for help, but it just doesn't seem right to say nothing. This was not a split second difference between the tag and touch the base. In basketball my association recommends go to your partner and tell him what you saw and let him change the call if he wants which I agree with. In softball and baseball you don't see this approach to getting the call right. But should we look at that type of mechanic. I am talking on the obvious, no doubters, not the bang bang plays where even slowmotion replay you can't help you decide.

Let the debate begin.

You "believe he may have been shielded by F6 and missed seeing the tag"

Maybe you were wrong.

"maybe if she had said could you ask for help or ask you partner what he saw maybe it would have been different."

That is true if the BU had some reason to feel he didn't see ALL the play.

"In basketball my association recommends go to your partner and tell him what you saw and let him change the call if he wants"

I don't do basketball, but this is similar in SB, and BB except you only tell if asked!

Bottom line is, that was his call, he saw it and made it to the best of his ability and judgement. What would give you the right to stop the game, and go tell him he was wrong?

Suppose the next pitch you call a ball, and your partner yells "TIME" then comes to you and tells you, "that really was a strike, I think you ought to ghange your call!" Is that really the mechanic you would like to change?

Handle your duties and let your partner handle his.
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