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Originally Posted by UMP25
But was it a judgment call or was it his ruling that R3 didn't score. There IS a difference.
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We'll never actually know, because the offensive manager never came out and questioned it. The rest was just the umpiring crew trying to cover it up.
I'd say that the only time you wave off runs is on a timing play. Do you do it on force outs? No. Any other times? No. Just timing plays. So the PU knew it was a timing play, and JUDGED that the runner didn't cross in time.
So you have a ruling: Timing play, and a judgement call: No he didn't hit the plate in time. We all know he blew it, but it's gotta stand.
Question: Is there any other time that you, as an umpire, wave off runs?
Another angle: R1, R3, two outs. A ball is hit back to the pitcher, who throws in to the catcher. The catcher tags the plate, and PU calls out on the force. The sides are changed, but two innings later someone figures out it wasn't a force at the plate. Now what? Same deal here folks.