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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
This player, who was in control of the ball, went from A to B without properly dribbling. Since he was not holding the ball during transit, he cannot be penalized for travelling, thus illegal dribble is the correct offense.
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And right there is where you're wrong. If he's not holding the ball and never dribbled, he can't be called for an illegal dribble either. Rule 4-15-4NOTE2 says that a player is NOT in control while batting a rebound/pass away from other players. There also is no limit set to the number of batts a player can make while the ball is still in the air.
Note that I was responding to Old School's contention that Chamberlain can't tip or bat the ball all the way down the floor without violating. And BktBallRef was also responding to Old School's similar wrong contention that you can't legally get from Point A to Point B without dribbling. If he batts the ball on a rebound, and the ball never comes to rest on his hand during any of the subsequent tips/batts, he sureashell legally can. And you also sureashell can't call an illegal dribble on that play if there never was any control.
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And I was talking about the situation posted by the OP. He wrote that this action occurred "during a dribble," and we both know that part of the definition of a dribble is "
ball movement caused by a player in control..." So my statement was completely correct.
