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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Yup. Look at 4-15-4(b)--palming. Is palming a violation? No! It's what you do after you palm the ball that determines whether or not the dribbler violates. The "palm" only ends the dribble. If you dribble again after palming the ball, you have an illegal second dribble. If you move your pivot foot illegally while palming the ball, you're traveling. If you "palm" and then immediately pass or shoot, it's a legal play.
The play being discussed is really no different than ending a dribble by palming the ball. What the player does after ending their dribble determines the call or no-call.
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The huge difference is that palming the ball is specified as a way that ends a dribble. (4-15-4-b) Touching the ball a second time before it touches the floor does not, by definition, end the dribble, but we know that it is a violation. (4.15.4 sit. D) So now we know that we can have an illegal dribble violation without ending the dribble, but where is this explained in the Rules Book?