Thread: Contradiction?
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Old Thu Mar 07, 2002, 02:55am
Bfair Bfair is offline
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Bob, I think it would wise to show all of the 8-4-2j rule:
    Any runner is out when he:
      fails to reach the next base before a fielder either tags the runner out or holds the ball while touching such base, after runner has been forced from the base he occupied because the batter became a runner (with ball in play) when other runners were on first base, or on first and second, or on first, second and third.
      EXCEPTION: No runner may be forced out if a runner who follows him in the batting order is first put out (including a batter-runner who is out for an infield fly).

In situation 9.1.1h, since the runner "reached" the base I would not see 8-4-2j as the applicable rule, but rather rule 8-2 and it's penalty for not touching bases. (Appeal rule and penalty).

Now add to that rule 2-29-3 which states:
    When a runner advances beyond a base to
    which he is forced without touching it, the force play remains. [my emphasis]

Thus, in 9.1.1h the force remains in effect on R2 for missing 3rd base. At least that's how I see it.

In 9.1.1k, the force on R2 had been removed during playing action.


Just my opinion,

Freix


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