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Originally Posted by All_Heart
Guys this is not up for debate. The relevent case play (9.5) was listed and this tells you all you need to know.
The act of throwing the ball to the floor starts a dribble BUT a double dribble can not take place until the ball returns to the dribbler's hand.
Here is the NCAA "case play"
A.R. 81. A1, after (a) receiving a pass, or (b) ending his dribble, passes the ball to A2. A2 leaves the area on a cut to the basket. A1 goes to the area vacated by A2 and recovers the ball. RULING: In order for a pass to occur, the thrown ball mus t be touched by another player. This did not occur in (a) or (b). In (a) A1’s attempted pass was the start of his dribble. When he recovered the ball and started another dribble, he would have committed a violation. (Had A1, after releasing his pass, which was the start of his dribble, not recovered the ball but rather continued his dribble, he would not have violated.) In (b), A1 had previously ended a dribble before his attempted pass to A2. A1’s release of the ball on his attempted pass to A2 was the start of a second dribble. When A1 recovered the ball he ended his dribble. A1 committed a violation after he touched the ball.
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All Heart, not everybody has common sense, which is a term that I think should be changed because it's not so common anymore. But I digress....
It is never a double dribble until the ball returns to the hand. A player may dribble, pick it up and "dribble" again as long as the ball never returns to his hand. It is a pass if this occurs.