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Old Wed Mar 14, 2007, 02:09pm
Jurassic Referee Jurassic Referee is offline
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Originally Posted by Old School
1) JR, I want you to think about this real good before you respond again. If I didn't have a rulebook, how would I know about the term Habitual Motion? Gotcha!!!!

2) Seriously, I got another philosophy on this call for all of you. At a recent camp, I was told that as the Lead, you don't watch the feet. As the Lead, you have from the waste up. Now, if you are the Lead making this call, and you are basing your decision on the fact that the defender got his feet down and set before the offensive players feet left the floor, you are watching the wrong thing. Plus, in order to make that determination at that precise time at real time speed is at best a guess. Judging that you are making that decision from the players feet. Now if you are watching the play from the waste up and judging this, you will see that the offensive player has a open path to the bucket, at the last minute a defender moves in. From real time speed, you can't undercut the player once he's started his shooting motion. So I'm saying that if the call comes from the Lead who watching from the waste up, the only possible call you can have is a defensive block, imho. Now we go back and review the film, the film shows the defender did get there in time and it was in fact PC. In real time, you can't make that call from the Lead and the reason is you don't have enough information, you are guessing at PC.

Let's breifly talk a minute about the contact to the torso. There was no contact to the torso. The player got there too late. The contact on the play was from the undercut and the offensive player fell down from this. If I'm watching waste up, there was no contact to the chest. That's what I need to see to rule PC from the L. Easy call, block, 2 shots, game over.

3) The National Basketball Association you moron!!!
1) Great. Now explain to us exactly what the "habitual motion" rule says and means. Then...cite it from the NFHS rule book verbatim. That means word-for-word. You'll find it on p.39. What does case book play 6.7COMMENT say about it? That's on p.50 of the case book. Please cite that word-for-word also. If you don't cite both......GOTCHA!!!!

2) Seriously, again that ties for the dumbest post ever made on this forum.If you had ever really gone to a basketball officials camp, you might actually have found out that the philosophy you're trying to describe applies to covering a stationary shooter under the board from the Lead, not a defender. You must have overheard a conversation between real officials, but failed to comprehend what they were saying. What you're basically saying is "DON"T referee the defense". Somehow, that doesn't really surprise me.

3) Moron? You're trying to use an NBA rule to call a high school play, and I'm a moron?