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Old Sun Feb 24, 2002, 09:20pm
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Quote:
Originally posted by mick
I my play, I designated the first tap, after control, as the start of the dribble; because after establishing control like that such an action, the bat, can only be a dribble or a pass. And since the player batted to himself, it was not a pass, hence it became an illegal dribble.
mick,

You can't have an illegal dribble unless the ball has been dribbled.
In your play, you have nothing unless the player picks up his pivot foot and then puts it down again or starts a dribble. I such a case, you would have traveling.
Your play cannot be an illegal dribble since the ball has not been dribbled.

TH
The dribble starts when the ball is batted to the floor (it doesn't say straight down, or sideway, or not up). Then the ball was batted again, not caught as in 4.15.4E, but batted again as in 4.15.4D. This is a violation of dribble and not a violation of movement in a semblance of Cases 4.15.
Hey, I'm just using the tools that are available.
mick
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