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Originally posted by mick
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Self,
I am more convinced than ever that this is an illegal dribble, and not traveling per NFHS.
And, like you, I think we can make the judgement of whether the player who batted the ball was in control.
Once we establish player control (using judgement), then we can go to, or in this case "limp to", the dribble rule and the fact that the player batted the ball twice before it hit the floor.
mick
[/B][/QUOTE]Mick,a player establishes "player control"only by actually holding the ball or dribbling it.If you judge at any time that a player gains control,I agree with you and you don't have to limp to the dribble rule at all.The dribble rule certainly now applies,as does the various travelling rules.The major question is "does a player gain control while tipping or batting a ball if it never comes to rest".Tony used an extreme case to illustrate that,but specifically said the ball didn't come to rest..A simpler case is a ballplayer tipping a rebound to himself-once or even a couple times.If the ball didn't come to rest,there's no violation.If you judge that the ball did come to rest,and he tips it again and goes and gets it(taking a coupla steps),yup its a violation.Don't know whether that makes any sense to you,podner,but it's the best I can do after the afternoon I've had.
