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Originally Posted by tomegun
I would like to make a humble suggestion: be consistent with what you say you will do. The quote above is a contradiction to what you said earlier.
I have never said you should put the ball in the exact spot, to the inch, where it want out. I say the ball should be put into play at the approximate spot where it went out.
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I think I am very consistent in what I have said. "Approximate" means different things to different people. That word clearly means something to you different to you than it does to me.
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Originally Posted by tomegun
I guess you can't say you have never had this conversation with another official, college or high school, because now you have.  I too have never had this conversation, at least not at this length, with another official because it has never been necessary. Like I said earlier, I would bet money you put the ball in the (approximate) spot where it went out or else someone else would have said something to you about it. |
When I say never, you know what I mean. If that has to be spelled out to you, well I really do not know what to tell you.
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Originally Posted by tomegun
I too don't officiate on this board and I don't think anything in this series of posts is so far-fetched to indicate otherwise. This is a no-brainer. There are so many other things to think about during a game, I don't have time to use something random to determine where I'm going to put the ball back into play. BTW, you have yet to say what determines where you put the ball into play. I don't buy the whole chearleader/fan thing. Saying a chearleader would be in the way and determine where the ball goes into play is weak.
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When you have been officiating as long as I have and in other sports for a similar length of period of time, many things are on auto-pilot. I worked in Ottawa, Illinois about a week ago. If anyone on this board has been at that school, there are bleachers just about 5 feet off the end line (approximately
). The cheerleaders stand right next to the court. All night we had to move cheerleaders and I was running into them all night just to try to work from the lead position. This was the case on both ends. It was a huge factor in where I put the ball in on the end line because there was so much congestion.
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Originally Posted by tomegun
Since we don't officiate on this board, this should be something you have done thousands of times. The ball goes out of bounds at spot X and you decide to put the ball into play at spot Y, what determines this? If it is all the way in the corner, I can understand. If it is in the lane area, I can understand. Other than that, please tell me what determines why you wouldn't put the ball into play at the approximate location where it went out. Seems like I've asked you that question about 100 times and have yet to receive a simple answer.
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Tommy, I have given you an example, after example, after example. If you do not want to accept this, that is OK with me. I have told you why I do things and you took it so literarily that you cannot understand why someone disagrees with you. Maybe you need an explanation for everything to make you feel better, but I do not. I will say that where I can stand is a factor, but it is not THE FACTOR.
Now the main reason I keep responding to you on this, it is fascinating that this really bothers you. It is almost like we brought up the “stop sign” issue. This is really fascinating that you want a detailed explanation of something I could give a damn about either way. I also have to admit this conversation is also entertaining.
Peace