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Originally Posted by IamKip
1.) It is not in NFHS other than what you say. They use the term holding. You are using it literally and are assuming NFHS is. Holding by Webster is; includes to keep away, to not let escape, to get and keep control of, to be in control of... I argue that maybe NFHS is also using Webster version of holding and in the case of back and forth from left to right hand they are holding the ball.
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Ok, but now you see why I originally posted the play with A1 tossing the ball 10 feet into the air. Your definition of control must deal with the argument posed by Jurassic.
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Originally Posted by IamKip
3.) Not a big deal since it is still a violation. You could argue how can it be an illegal dribble since he has never pushed the ball to the floor. But I would have not problem with that. I would still say travel as I deem the player in control of the ball.
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Did you read the case book play that I referenced? It explicitly says that the dribble is illegal precisely because it did not contact the floor. There is no argument about it. It's right there in black and white. If you "still say travel" you would be correct about calling a violation and giving the ball to the opposing team, but incorrect in your reason for doing so.
4.15.4 SITUATION E: (a) A1 tosses the ball from one hand to the other while keeping his/her pivot foot in contact with the floor; or (b) A1 throws the ball over the head of B1 and then takes several steps before catching it. RULING: Legal in (a), but an illegal dribble violation in (b). In (b), since the ball did not touch the floor, the tossing and subsequent catch is an illegal dribble. (9-5)