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Old Sat Jan 20, 2007, 09:48am
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Girls V, 2 man mechanics. We use NCAA rules with a few modifications. I'm R working trail in the first half. Home player A1 takes a 3 point shot from near the gray area. I go up with 3 fingers and watch for contact on the shooter.
Your P has to know when you signal 3-point attempt, he has the responsibility of knowing if the basket was good.

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The ball comes down looking as though it didn't hit anything. A second or two later, the home coach is yelling that the ball went in. I replay the shot in my head and realize that she's probably right. I blow my whistle and go and look at the basket---sure enough there's a hole in the back left where the ball could have gone through. At this point, I'm 95% sure that the ball went in.
I have no problem going to confirm this oddity, but it does look a little weird.

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I ask my partner, and he (being a good official) didn't see anything from his spot, since he was watching rebounders.
See above. I think he is supposed to know.

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I go to the table and ask timers (we have a shot clock in NY girls) and scorer---all agree that the ball went in. I count the basket.
Minor officials are part of the officiating crew. That's why we protect them from coaches berating them, etc.... I do believe there is text that describes on which issues we can consult them. Unfortunately, I can't confirm what they are right now. I have no problem with using the table staff. I realize that issues arise if they're students at the home school, though.

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Needless to say, visitor coach isn't happy. He doesn't think that the table should be involved in any way with this decision. I explain to him that they are part of the officiating team, etc. He talks to my partner, but I intervene saying that this was my call and my decision and that we're moving on.
I think your P needs to back you up on the call, since s/he has no information to provide. You shouldn't need to intervene. But, you did, correctly, and moved forward.

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He asks that the scorer write in the book that he's playing the game under protest. I inform him that there is no such thing as a protest in basketball and get the game going again.
Is this true under NCAA rules? You handled this part well.

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My partner tells me that the visiting captain said that the ball had gone in and he asked her to tell her coach.
Nice.

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After the half, we come out and I see the visiting coach talking to the table about the play. I have to drop the key to the locker room off at the table anyway, so I figure this is a good time to explain what my reasoning was to him. (NY is emphasizing communication with coaches and since this particular coach is a very reasonable guy, so I knew that I wasn't inviting a disaster here.) I go over the same points, admit that I had made an initial mistake, but said that I was 100% sure that the ball had gone in and that we had gotten the call right, which was the important thing. He still insisted that the table should not have been involved, but that the call should have been made on the floor by the two officials. We didn't get to any sort of agreement, so after a minute or so I went across the floor to my spot. No trouble in the 2nd half at all.

Should I have done anything different?
The only thing I don't like is the visiting coach bringing the issue up with the table again. It is over, the call is made. All communication goes through an official. It seems as though nothing major was going to happen because s/he is a reasonoable coach, which is the type we give more slack to, but had things gone down the toilet, I'd inform that coach that all communication goes through myself of my P.

Overall: thumbs up.
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